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September
2006
Dear YLS
Member:
I am pleased to
present to you the September issue of Electronically In Touch. In this
issue, you will find:
• The Big Event: the YLS Fall Meeting,
October 20-22, 2006 in Albany
• Update from the Elder Law Section
• Standing Out in the Crowd—a monthly
column- Enthusiasm
• Confronting Uncertainty in Law School and
Practice- Commentary
• Outstanding Young Lawyer Award- Accepting
Nominations for 2007
• Mark your calendar and save the dates! Details
below.
- First District
Networking Event: Tax Section Young Lawyer Reception, November 2,
7:00-9:00 p.m. Soho Grand Hotel, Manhattan.
- Third District
Networking Event: Albany County Bar Young Lawyer Cocktail Reception,
October 5, 5:30 p.m. Yono's, Albany. Cost is $20 for young
lawyers.
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First, I would
like to thank the young lawyers who submitted content for this issue.
You perform a valuable and important service by keeping our young lawyer
and law student members informed of current topics and recent
developments in the law, and by providing career and professional
development advice that is useful, practical, and enjoyable to
read.
Second, I would
like to emphasize cooperation and interaction with the substantive law
sections. As members of the NYSBA, we are part of an extraordinarily
talented group of lawyers that represent a valuable resource of
intellect and experience. As part of our effort to develop and improve
our professional skills, I would like to encourage all YLS members to
not only offer their own experiences and knowledge, but also attempt to
incorporate knowledge accumulated by NYSBA’s many distinguished
members.
In
Touch is open to many different formats to present the
cooperative efforts of our YLS contributors. Perhaps you would like to
co-author a piece in a conversational format, describing a particular
area of law. Maybe you are particularly impressed with an
attorney’s knowledge of an area of law and would to write a
summary of an interview with that attorney. Or perhaps you know a judge
or district attorney or U.S. Attorney, etc. and your interaction with
that person has or could produce something of interest to your
collogues.
As always, I
encourage you to submit any idea you may have including, a summary of a
recent decision, statute, legal issue, or book review, or a procedural
change in practice, etc. If you are interested in sharing your ideas,
advice, tips, and/or content submissions, please send them to us at yls@nysba.org or to Seth at seth@sethazria.com for inclusion in
the newsletter. Electronically In-Touch is a monthly
publication. The deadline for submissions is the 10th of the month, for
inclusion in that month’s issue but your submissions and ideas are
welcome anytime for later publication.
We hope that you
enjoy the September issue and look forward to staying In
Touch...
Seth M.
Azria
Editor
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Please join us for
our Fall meeting in Albany, October 20-22, 2006. With continuing legal
education programs covering a diverse array of practice areas and career
development topics and opportunities for networking and socializing with
peers, colleagues, families, and friends, it is our hope that the
weekend will attract one of the largest gatherings of newly-admitted,
young lawyers, and law students to a meeting of the Section.
The weekend will
open late Friday afternoon with an ethics presentation, followed by a
welcome reception and dinner for those members arriving early. The
meeting will continue on Saturday with a day-long program of continuing
legal education, including three (3) general sessions and thirteen (13)
concurrent sessions. We will be offering programs on ethics,
civil/criminal trial practice and trial advocacy, evidence, criminal
law, business and corporate law, real property, land use planning and
zoning, municipal law, environmental law, family and matrimonial law,
intellectual property, international law, estate practice, alternative
dispute resolution, and career and professional development.
Social events are
being planned for members, families, friends, and guest, including a
welcome reception and dinner on Friday evening, a Saturday morning tour
of historic Albany and a special Saturday evening private tour,
reception, and dinner at the New York State Museum. The weekend will
conclude on Sunday with committee business meetings.
There is something
for everyone! We hope to see you, your families, and guests in the Fall!
Stay tuned for meeting materials.
ELS Summer
Meeting
I attended the Elder Law Section’s Summer Meeting in Portsmouth,
New Hampshire at the beginning of August. It was a wonderful opportunity
to participate in the Executive Committee meeting and hear the new
initiatives the Section Chair, Ellen G. Makofsky, the 25 committees,
liaisons and district delegates are working to implement and what
progress has been made with programs in existence.
The Elder Law
Section is eager to recruit new members – particularly new
attorneys admitted in the last three to four years. One effort being
developed by the Membership Committee Chair, Martin B. Petroff, is the
Ambassador Program. Distinguished from a mentor, the ambassador’s
role would be to encourage a new Section member to become involved in
activities and events. The ELS is currently seeking participation from
its members and I will be in touch with YLS once they are ready to match
members between the two Sections.
While the Section covered a wide variety of practical information for
members, of particular focus at this meeting were reports by the
Guardianship and Medicaid Committee Chairs. A proposal has been made by
the Section to expedite the termination of an Article 81 guardianship
upon death of the Incapacitated Person. There were many discussions
about how the practice of elder law is changing, given that this meeting
immediately followed the implementation of 06 OMM/ADM - 5, the New York
State guidelines to the Federal Deficit Reduction Act 2005, which
significantly changed the Medicaid eligibility standards. Also mentioned
was the passage of Burial Rights – new legislation found in Public
Health Law Section 4201 allowing designation of an agent to dispose of
one’s remains, as well as a designation form and a hierarchy of
eligible agents, including a domestic partner, if none was
named.
The next ELS
meeting will be October 19-21, 2006 at The Westchester Renaissance Hotel
in White Plains, NY. Please contact me at cdoolity@cswlawfirm.com with
any questions about the topics discussed at the summer meeting or how to
get more involved with the Sections.
Enthusiasm
At my
undergraduate institution—call it “Old Ivy”—the
vast majority of applicants are interviewed by alumni volunteers as part
of their college application process. The past few years I have
interviewed about three or four students during the early admissions
period and about six to eight students during the regular decision
period. I also participate in my firm’s recruiting, which means
that each fall, I conduct a half-day of on-campus screening interviews,
followed by several call-back interviews each week.
This weekend, Old
Ivy hosted a one-day training session for interested volunteer
interviewers. After five years of conducting alumni interviews for Old
Ivy and two years of conducting interviews at the firm, I didn’t
really think that I had too much to learn, but I decided to go anyway as
an excuse for a short vacation. That day, while listening to one of the
presentations, several lines of thought that I had been trying to put my
finger on all summer finally gelled together in one cohesive
whole.
The final speaker
that afternoon was Old Ivy’s new Dean of Freshmen, and he had been
asked to speak about what made a successful Old Ivy student. While he
spoke for nearly an hour, there was one dominant message in his
presentation—a successful Old Ivy student is enthusiastic. A
successful Old Ivy student shows up on campus brimming with intellectual
curiosity, thrilled to learn about dozens of new subjects. She
doesn’t choose her classes in order to lay the ground work for a
stellar transcript for law school applications. Instead, she is willing
to take risks, and embrace all available opportunities, even if it means
not having the perfect transcript.
This message was
echoed earlier in the day, at another portion of the training, where the
volunteers participated in a mock admissions committee. We reviewed
redacted Old Ivy applications from a previous admissions cycle, getting
a taste of what it’s like to be admissions officers. Applications
that actually get to the point of committee review have already passed
the initial screening of grades and scores. All the applications that we
discussed were excellent, and it was very difficult to decide who would
be getting the thin letter in their mailbox.
At the end of the
session, we asked the officers what factors they used when making these
difficult admissions decisions. The admissions officers said that they
looked for students with energy, who would be excited about their Old
Ivy educations, and who would really make use of all the assets
available to them during their time at Old Ivy. In a word, they looked
for enthusiasm.
This lesson made a
lot of sense to me. When I am conducting interviews for the firm, I make
it a habit not to look at the interviewee’s transcript until after
the interview. Afterwards, very often I find that the interviewees that
I have rated the highest are students who have had a B- thrown into the
mix of their academic transcript. I suppose that’s because those
students don’t take it for granted that they can go and work at
any firm they want; instead, they tend to have put some effort into
locating firms that are actually a good fit. They not only seem excited
to have an interview, but they seem excited about having an interview
with you.
Even during the
summer associate program itself, the students who do the best work and
develop the best reputations for themselves are those students who
enthusiastically embrace their experience at the firm. They ask
unsolicited questions about your practice throughout the summer just
because they’re interested in finding out more about your job.
They solicit feedback and show a real desire to improve their work
product. They show up at events with a smile on their face, and make it
their task to personally get to know everyone participating in the
summer program.
Enthusiastic
associates are more fun to mentor because they actually seem interested
in what you’re saying. Enthusiastic associates often produce
better work product because they care about doing the best job they can
every assignment. Enthusiastic associates are successful
associates—they grow into better lawyers because they’re
excited about learning.
Take a page from
Old Ivy’s playbook—be enthusiastic about all the aspects of
your work, and you too can be a success.
Ubiquitous
uncertainty often accompanies any attempt to excel in a new environment;
for me, law school, with its mystique, was definitely one of those
environments. As a law student, it was difficult for me to pin down
whether I was doing the right thing. A poor initial performance would
have been fatal to my law school goals, so I turned to others for advice
on how to rid myself of the debilitating anxiety that stemmed from my
uncertainty. The advice that I received from 2Ls, 3Ls and many books
covered the spectrum and was often contradictory or inconsistent. I
figured that some formulation of the offered advice must be correct. The
top students all did something, something real, something that would be
true and effective for me just as it was for them. But what was it? I
suspected that a right way existed and awaited discovery amidst the
noise of all the advice.
My quest for a
specific mental process tailored to my new environment required that I
both accept the idea that most students who wanted good grades could
achieve them and specifically reject any explanation based on unknowable
or unattainable factors, like innate intelligence. It appeared to me,
that while large differences in mental capacity may be apparent at
birth; subtle differences in an unquantifiable thing called
“smart” would require an impossible measurement, e.g. what
is the difference between “B” smart, and “A”
smart, in law school? Casting further doubt on the explanatory value of
innate intelligence was the failure of certain people to excel, even
though I considered them smart or certain authorities considered them
smarter than I. Because I needed to know what the difference was between
good, better and best, I was forced to press on. After discarding the
practical explanatory value of innate intelligence, the next possible
candidate naturally followed. If differing results realized by two smart
people could not be explained by internal factors in any meaningful way,
perhaps the difference was external and therefore observable.
I thought that a
logical place to start was a measure of the time spent in pursuit of the
mastery of the law school curriculum. Indeed, law students are often
curious about the amount of time law school requires. I soon recognized
the limitations of any temporal explanation. Chief among those problems
was that any given amount of time was meaningless without the direction
of some type of productive thought process. Any inquiry I made into a
quantity of time or indeed any other externally observable phenomenon
quickly referred me back to the internal domain and therefore the realm
of the less than precise and non-instructive measure of intelligence.
Moreover, the simple observation that some students excelled while
spending less time than others poked significant holes in any time based
theory.
Any combination or
delicate balance of innate and external factors seemed fruitless without
an understanding of their underlying relationship. The internal and
external approaches I had initially identified formed a perfect circle
of logic that told me nothing concrete. I was without any principle to
rely on to delimit the internal or the external factors. What was it? I
thought. Some took notes, some made elaborate outlines, some studied a
lot, others a little, some seemed and sounded smart but got
“C’s”, other said nothing and apparently did nothing
and got “A’s.” Moreover, any combination I could come
up with to explain success in law school was immediately contradicted by
someone who did it some other way and was in the top of the class.
Perhaps trial and error could suffice in the long run, but in the first
year of law school one good semester out of two was not good
enough.
After some
thought, the basic inquiries became clear to me. First, I had to isolate
the cause of high grades, simple: good exam answers.
“Knowing” the law, or reading all the cases twice, studying
twenty hours a day, or being “smart” may, in some
combination, be correlated to high grades but writing a good exam answer
was the cause of good grades. Next, I had to know how to write a good
exam answer. If law school trains lawyers, it would stand to reason that
a lawyer could write a good exam answer. Because I regard thinking as
the sole means of accomplishment, I concluded that I should think like a
lawyer.
For many, that slippery phrase does not carry any meaning and to others
it may amount to a truism. In either case, a goal so broad as to think
like this or think like that is likely too general to be helpful and
many students, and indeed many lawyers, usually believe that to recite
the commandment to, “think like a lawyer” is no more than a
hazing of the uninitiated. Undaunted by the prevailing skepticism, I
concluded that meaning could be attached to the phrase. Fundamentally,
it seemed that a lawyer must know some law and how to argue it.
Therefore, I identified two essential components of lawyerly thought.
The first component of thinking like a lawyer was the identification and
mastery of the law. The second component of thinking like a lawyer was
the skill of argumentation. I came to regard those two components as
distinct; with each demanding an approach carefully tailored to its
unique features.
Since entering practice, both as associate and now as a solo
practitioner, I have found that the approach that I employed in law
school continues to be relevant. Uncertainty, in the face of new clients
with new problems persists to a far greater degree than in the
cloistered academic setting of law school because effective solutions
now touch real lives as opposed to the difference between an A and B. I
have found that my careful attention to substantive law school
coursework is helpful but its utility is eclipsed by the importance of
the method by which I attended to that coursework. That method was
characterized by an objective evaluation of the unique aspects of a case
within a familiar legal system followed and a relentless pursuit of
answers from dependable sources. For me that method yielded the most
valuable and enduring lesson of law school; in our legal system, the
answers to the uncertain future are contained and will be molded from
the certainty of the past and the antidote to uncertainty is the
confidence to seek the certainty that must exist. Now, when I face
uncertainty brought to me by a client, I am confident that I will be
able resolve the matter or, at a minimum, isolate the issue and make an
intelligent referral.
The Young Lawyers
Section each year honors a young lawyer who has rendered outstanding
service to both the community and legal profession. The Outstanding
Young Lawyer Award recognizes an attorney who has actively practiced
less than 10 years, or is under 37 years old, and has a distinguished
record of commitment to the finest traditions of the Bar through public
service and professional activities.
To find out more
and for application see www.nysba.org/oyl
Tax
Section Young Lawyer Reception
The Tax Section has decided to roll out the red carpet for
young lawyers at the beautiful downtown Manhattan, Soho Grand Hotel. The
Tax Section is hosting a free reception for young lawyers complete with
drinks, appetizers and casual conversation with some of the most
influential and accomplished tax lawyers in the world. Any young lawyer
that may be interested in tax law is invited to attend, membership in
NYSBA, the Tax Section or YLS is not required. This is a great
opportunity to meet some very interesting people in a relaxed
environment.
If you decide to
attend, please RSVP, with your complete contact information, to: careilly@nysba.org, Event
Coordinator,
New York State Bar Association.
The Reception will
be from 7:00pm to 9:00pm, Thursday November 2.
The Soho Grand is located at 310 West Broadway, near Canal
Street.
Albany
County Bar Young Lawyer Cocktail Reception
Albany County Bar Association's Young Lawyer's Cocktail Party
on October 5, 2006, Yonos downtown Albany at 5:30 PM. Cost for young
lawyers is $20. For more information contact: rsimmons@albanycountybar.com
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*Christina H. Bost Seaton
is a second year associate in the complex litigation and labor &
employment practice groups at Troutman Sanders LLP in Manhattan, where
she is constantly trying to “play
rainmaker.”
** Seth M. Azria is the editor of this publication and a solo
practitioner in Syracuse, New York.
This column is
not intended to be construed as legal advice that can be relied on or
considered authoritative in any particular case nor should the reader
infer any such intent from any particular phrase or construction
employed by the style used to present the material.
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